Freedom of Choice
yankees and timberwolves speakin'
about dead faith.. i know there's this verse which i think Ivan quoted, about we're not save by faith, but through grace or something like that. saved by grace through faith? saved by faith through grace.. ahh think it's the last one.. i'm not sure ivan please give me the reference k.. ya so, if you don't have faith, you can't be saved right? so what if you have dead faith, it's the same as not having faith? so if you've dead faith means you won't be saved? so means if you ain't got works, or action, we won't be saved right.. ya ivan said something about faith without works is [some text missing], can have works without faith, but cannot have faith without works.. ya so pt is without works, can't be saved? oops i just saw the verse. by grace, through faith. ya my question still stands.
Oh here it is
James 2:14-18
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your[4] works, and I will show you my faith by my[5] works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[6] 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."[7] And he was called the friend of God. 24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Anyway i would like to post a new question.
i've asked pastor richard and my own mom and many others when i was young, but not satisfied, even till now..
If God knew what we were going to do it before we've done it, and if we put ourselves in God's shoes, then don't we have no freedom of choice.. as in parallel it to a play. and God is the scripwriter, and he knows everything that happens. The only flaw in this analogy is that the actor doesn't have a choice of what he wants to do.. cause he's instructed to by the script. I know we have total freedom of choice. In our lives there isn't a script, but then how come God knows what we're going to choose? So if God knows what we're going to choose, don't we have no choice but to do the thing that God knows we're going to do? Cos if we don't do that, then it means God made a mistake, and that's impossible.. ya it's really quite complicated, but then again, i said earlier that God is beyond our understanding, for he is Greater than us.. yup so anyway just post this to ask, maybe i'm totally shrouded in my understanding of this and you guys can help..

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